A topikban a személyeskedés, trollkodás nem elfogadott. A téma a magyar őstörténelem!
Mindenki szíveskedjen forrást, bizonyítást bemutatni az érvelésénél. (az értelmetlen vitákat kiküszöböli)
Akit sérelem ért, az lehetőleg ne álljon le vitázni a másik féllel, hanem írjon nekem (Zenty) privát üzenetet.
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ahddub #1562 nos akkor nézük a szabírok(magyarok) első kapcsolatát az ugorokkal(nyelvtolvajok)!Per Priscus jóvoltából!
450 Per Priscus, Sabirs conquered lands of Onogurs, Saragurs and Ugors in steppes around north-western Caspian coast.
453 To Ellak, eldest of brothers, Atilla’s sons, was given ulus (Oguz) of a horde called Sabirs. To Tengiz (Dengizik), was given ulus (Oguz) of a horde called Kutrigurs. To Bel-Kermek (Hernach), youngest, was given ulus (Oguz) of a horde called Utigurs.
454 Coalition of Germanic clans defeats and kills Ellak in battle. Sabirs without Ellak retreat to the East, through Pontic Steppes, to Daghestan. Kutriguri and Utiguri under Bel-Kermek (Hernach), fell back to 'Ugol' place that corresponds to Bessarabia.
469 Western Hunnish clans retreated. Utigurs to Azov-Taman SE of Sea of Azov. Kutrigurs to between Dniepr and Don Rivers, NW from Sea of Azov Utigurs. Sabirs in Daghestan SE of other two Hunnic hordes, between Daryal Gorge and Kuma River on the Caspian Sea.
505 Sabirs from Pannonia begin to immigrate to North Caucasus and Itil valley
505 Sabirs created a powerful federation of akin tribes, "Kingdom of Huns". They were populous and had an army of 20,000 well equipped cavalrymen. They were masters of art of war and build siege machines unknown even to Persians and Byzantines.