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Viper II-ről minden!
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Bilux #580 De persze ehhez /ProSavage / nyomják a drivereket agyba főbe... -
Bilux #579 Báz mivan már ..???
Driver sehol..:( -
#578
A mipmap értéke sztem nem biztos, hogy jól van beállítva, a default dBias értéknél nekem S4-en távolabb van az elmosódottabb rész. De a jpeg miatt is mosottabb, az eredetiek egy fokkal jobbak. Szerintem. De ezeken is látszik az érdes felület, és nagyon cool. -
kowajano #577 most a jpeg miatt látom mosotnak vagy a kártya amivel lett jáccva a mip mappot rosszul kezeli?
felülröl a 4. képen a fal a két oldalon a végén kicsit mosodik -
#576
Kicsit mosottabb, mint az eredeti, de sztem mégis jobb, mint 7 megát töltögetni. -
#575
Kész. jpg-k bmp helyett, 1,5 mega helyett 80 kb-ok :-))) és nem is nagy a minőségvesztés.
Szerintem igen jók! -
#574
Jaaaaaa.......!!!!!!
Tegnap fél órán át pislogtam magam elé hülyén, hogy mi a fenéért kapok 7 mega Q3 képet.
Mingyárt feltöltöm őket, de!!
Előbb át kell nyomni jpg-be, mert a tga nagyon szép ugyan, de kicsit durva a másfél Mb/ kép arány! 5 kép van! -
koko #573 Na hát fog jönni néhány kép, Dikkma segítségével.
Ha tetszenek, további infókat, vagy képeket lehet tolem kérni.
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Bilux #572 Valamit igen félreértett a tag..hehe
Pedig csak ezt írtam amit Ajith "apánk" írt nekem:New DX8 drivers coming soon. For both.
Ajith
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Bilux #571 Hehe ja Bocsi Phyre...:)))))))))) -
kowajano #570 azért ezek se csunyák bár ez nem a 3dmark2001böl valo :)
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Phyre #569 Bilux, te nagyon gonosz vagy, nem is mondtad, hogy az S3-nak dolgozol:
"There's a guy, nickname Bilux, that once upon a time claimed to be from some kind of S2K support team and said that there's gonna be a DX8.0 driver for Savage cards (bites me which one)."
(SDN fórum) :)))))))))))))))) -
Bilux #568 akkor már csak márciusban lessz..??? -
Bilux #567 We arent getting any despite what that ajith dude saidd he said that 3 months ago and look its almost march 2k1 and still NOTHING. If they release drivers right after I say this you can flame me. Until then dont think about it -
Bilux #566 Aha akkor +nyugodtam..:) -
Phyre #565 Nyugodtan felejtsd el. Ők még mindig a SonicBlue-nak irogatnak, akik persze nem tudnak semmit, csak egy automata válaszuk van. Egyszer talán majd rájönnek, hogy az S3Graphics az illetékes... -
Bilux #564 Na Phyre ez mi..???
Az sdnews-en siránkozik az egyik tag...:( -
Bilux #563 This is the response I have gotton from sonicblue. It includes the message on the top of this thread. Read from the bottom up. This is a long string of emails and responses from sonicblue. The ending is not very good. I only hope VIA can support the card now.
Dear Valued Customer,
There are no plans for any further driver updates for any of our video
cards. The graphics division has been sold and is no longer part of
SONICblue. We have no information as to what developments will come from the
new owners, but they will not be updating any drivers for the chipsets on
any of our cards.
Unfortunately, we can not offer a refund for the product. You would have to
return it to the place of purchase for a refund. We can only offer a
warranty exchange for it.
* Please include all previous messages (in text format) for continuation of
support and also ensure your return e-mail address is correct.
Undeliverable messages are deleted.
SONICblue Customer Service/Technical Support
Support Telephone Number: 541-967-2450
Customer Service Telephone Number: 800-468-5846
Sincerely,
Peter R.
TRACKING NUMBER: A00000071656-00000293344
-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Wednesday, Feb 7 2001 07:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Savage 2000 question,
I thankyou for your time, but is there any way you could put me in
contact
with someone that does know? Or pass my message on to them and have them
contact me. I know your company has changed hands and maybe you can't give
me any answers yet. When you do know the answers could you contact me?
Waiting, But hopfuly not forever.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Customer Support"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Savage 2000 question,
> Dear Valued Customer,
> Here in technical support, we do not have access to that information as
yet.
> I would keep checking the website as that is where you will find that
> information when it is available.
>
>
> * Please include all previous messages (in text format) for continuation
of
> support and also ensure your return e-mail address is correct.
> Undeliverable messages are deleted.
>
> SONICblue Customer Service/Technical Support
> Support Telephone Number: 541-967-2450
> Customer Service Telephone Number: 800-468-5846
>
> Sincerely,
> Mark J.
>
> TRACKING NUMBER: A00000068265-00000279209
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> From:
> Sent: Monday, Feb 5 2001 05:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Re: Savage 2000 question,
>
> Could you be more specific. I have been given this answer before and
> it
> does not answer my question of "When will the drivers be coming out. Is
any
> work being done with the card. The card still has issues that has not
been
> fixed. My next question. If you can answer it is: If my card is broken
> from the start and you guys can not fix it threw driver support and it has
> to do with the hardware and not the drivers. Can I return my card for the
> value that it was worth at the time I registered it with you guys. I
would
> list the features that are not working, but I feel you know about this
> already. Please respond back with a real answer and not the prewritten
> response I have been receiving. I understand you have thousands of emails
> per day to answer. If your response to my questions needs a few more days
> to get back to me I understand. I brought your products with trust and
> faith in your company. Please dont destroy that. Thankyou for your time.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Customer Support"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 4:44 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: Savage 2000 question,
>
>
> > Dear Valued Customer,
> >
> > Given S3's recent announcement that it will be shutting down its Diamond
> > Multimedia board businesses, as well as S3's in-process merger of it
> > graphics chip business with VIA Technologies, S3 has halted development
of
> > next-generation graphics cards.
> >
> > Although we will not be developing new Stealth or Viper products, new
> > reference drivers for graphics cards based upon the Savage 4 and Savage
> 2000
> > chips may be posted in the future on the www.s3graphics.com web site
and,
> of
> > course, we will continue to provide you with technical support and honor
> the
> > 5 year hardware warranty on your Diamond Multimedia graphics card.
Should
> > you need assistance with the installation or use of your Stealth or
Viper
> > graphics board, please go to our web site at www.s3.com. From there you
> can
> > access our FAQ files, a searchable knowledgebase, email forms to submit
> > questions and contact info should you need to call us. Support for
> > SpeedStar cards is provided by the computer manufacturer or system
builder
> > who installed that graphics board in your computer.
> >
> > The Viper II uses the S3 Savage 2000 chipset. The most recent drivers
can
> > be found at:
> >
>
http://www.diamondmm.com/default.asp?menu=support&submenu=S3_Graphic_Chips&i
> > tem=drivers&product=Savage_2000
> >
> >
> > * Please include all previous messages (in text format) for continuation
> of
> > support and also ensure your return e-mail address is correct.
> > Undeliverable messages are deleted.
> >
> > SONICblue Customer Service/Technical Support
> > Support Telephone Number: 541-967-2450
> > Customer Service Telephone Number: 800-468-5846
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Jeff D.
> >
> > TRACKING NUMBER: A00000066573-00000271608
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> >
> > From:
> > Sent: Saturday, Feb 3 2001 10:39 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Savage 2000 question,
> >
> > The Viper II video card. Is it still being supported? Are drivers
> > still
> > being made and when will they come out.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Customer Support"
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 8:08 PM
> > Subject: RE: Savage 2000 question,
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Dear Valued Customer,
> > >
> > >
> > > <><><><>
> > > You have inquired about an S3 chipset based product. S3 was primarily
a
> > > chip maker before merging with Diamond. Chips used on
> non-S3/non-Diamond
> > > Multimedia products are supported by the manufacturer of that product,
> not
> > > S3.
> > >
> > > Different companies who use S3 chipsets in their products may choose
to
> > use
> > > some or all of the chip's features. Please contact your video
> > > board/laptop/motherboard/sound card manufacturer for support.
> > >
> > > If you are simply looking for reference drivers for S3 chipset based
> > > products, please check the S3 reference driver page.
> > > http://208.202.167.131/swlib/?license=accept
> > >
> > > If you do have a Diamond Multimedia product which uses an S3 chipset,
> > please
> > > reply to this message being sure to include the Diamond product name
> > > instead of the S3 chipset name.
> > >
> > > (BW 24975)
> > > Thank you for your e-mail. To better serve you, we have responded to
> your
> > > message with a common suggestion. If our suggestion does not resolve
> your
> > > situation, you can receive a support representative response by
replying
> > to
> > > this message.
> > > If possible please be sure to include as much of the following as
> > possible:
> > > Operating System & Version ->
> > > Motherboard make and model ->
> > > Processor type and speed ->
> > > Monitor make and model ->
> > > Primary Video Card ->
> > > Bus type (AGP, PCI) ->
> > > Video driver version ->
> > > Video bios version ->
> > > Other peripherals and add-on cards ->
> > > Description of problem and any other details that would be helpful.
> > Please
> > > be as detailed as possible, including the names of the programs giving
> > > problems and the text of any error messages:
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > SONICblue
> > > Formerly S3 / Diamond Multimedia.
> > > http://www.diamondmm.com
> > >
> > > <><><>
> > >
> > >
> > > Riovolt:
> > > The next generation of portable CD players.
> > > www.riohome.com
> > >
> > > Be sure to check out the self help tools such as FAQ's the
> > Solution
> > > Library, etc... on our web site, www.diamondmm.com.
> > >
> > > Complete spoken word support for all versions of the Rio 500
> from
> > > AudibleManager 2.5 available now. Download AudibleManager 2.5
at
> > > http://www.audible.com/rio500/software and receive FREE $10
> credit
> > > towards spoken word content!
> > >
> > > Get your family connected with HomeFree phone line networking
> > today!
> > > Link your PC to your kid's MAC-- share files, printers, and
> > Internet
> > > access. Experience intense multi-player gaming at incredible
> > speeds!
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> at
> > an
> > > unbelievable price.
> > >
> > > http://www.diamondmm.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > TRACKING NUMBER: A00000066362-00000270809
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > >
> > > From:
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Savage 2000 question,
> > >
> > > Name:
> > > Email Address:
> > >
> > > Product: Savage 2000
> > > OS: windows98
> > > Bus Type:
> > > CPU Type: AMDK7
> > > CPU Speed: 700
> > > O v e r c l o c k e d? no
> > > Motherboard: sd11
> > > Chipset: amd 751
> > > FAQ: No answer found in FAQ.
> > >
> > > Question:
> > > when are the next drivers coming out for my viper II?
> > >
> > >
> > > 2/3/01 4:54:57 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Bilux #562 Ja és mindez 1024x768x32 és FSAA... -
Bilux #561 Nem rosszak ezek a 3dMark 2001-es képek...
Már alig várom,hogy mennyi pontot fog adni a ViperII-re...:) -
Bilux #560 
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Bilux #559 
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Bilux #558 Köszi Phyre a felvilágosítás...:)
Ja meg a pontokat is.../mennyi van eddig..?? :)/ -
Phyre #557 Na a Radeon-nal (meg a S2k-val is) vigyázni kell a 3dmark fill rate tesztben. Ajánlhatnám a Radeon összehasonlító cikket, de inkább leírom (ja, és Biluxnak van sok-sok jó pontja nálam, nem mintha menne vele valamire, de azért van :)))))). A single texturing fill rate az annyi, amennyi, nincs rajta mit magyarázni. Multitexturing esetén a teszt négy textúrát használ egy poligonhoz, ezt a Savage2000 egy menetben megoldja (azaz egy textúra olvasás, és egy frame/Z buffer írással). A Radeon nem igazán tudja kihasználni a 3 textúrázó egységet (akkor is ugyanilyen gyors lenne, ha 2 lenne), az első menetben kirak 3 textúrát, eredményt kiírja a frame bufferbe. Következő menetben visszaolvassa az eredményt, maradék textúrát is feldolgozza, és végül kiírja a végeredményt a frame bufferbe, igaz, hogy ezt az egész hercehurcát 2 pixellel is megteszi. Tehát a fill rate már elvben is a maximális érték 2/3-a (olyan 730 MTexels/sec), ehhez jön még a többszöri írkálás-olvasás miatt a megnövekedett memória sávszélesség igény.
Ha viszont 2 textúrát használ egy program egy poligonra, akkor a Savage-nek is jóval nagyobb memória-sávszélességre lenne szüksége. -
Bilux #556 igaz még nincs felhúzva 200-ra az engine
Meg a radeon ddr-es effektív 400mhz -
Bilux #555 igaz 32 bitben tényleg eléggé vissza esik..:( -
Bilux #554 Na itt van a benchmark eredmeny
a konfig:
ABIT-KT7A-RAID
Tbird 1GHZ o/c 1064 MHz (nem volt kedvem felhuzni jobban, a RAM igy is 140 Mhz-en ment mar, bar lehetett volna HCLK+PCICLK helyett csak sima HCLK-n uzemeltetni, de akkor a ram sebessege joval kisebb)
talan meg kene probalni 133*10=1330 Mhz-en kek magos verzio, talan menne ennyin sima leghutessel is (FOP38 kene) nyitott hazzal
GlobalWin FOP-32
ATI RADEON OEM 64 MB ViVO o/c 200/200
256 MB winbond pc133 sdram
Acorp 10/100 Mbit
Videologic SOnicfury+Digitheatre LC
Diamond 56,6
Mag 796FD
Logitech iTouch
Codegen 6013
Pioneer DVD-105s
TEAC 4*4*32*
a tesztet zart hazzal vegeztem
16 bit:
CPU AMD Athlon 1064MHz
3D Accelerator RADEON DDR
Chipset ATI RADEON DDR
Resolution 1024x768 16 bit
Z-Buffer Depth 16-bit
Frame Buffer Triple
Refresh Rate V Sync.Off
CPU Optimization D3D Hardware T&L
3DMark Result 5759 3D marks
CPU Speed 503 CPU 3D marks
Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail 119.45 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail 82.45 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail 37.04 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail 116.23 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail 77.41 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail 47.32 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 327.47 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 685.03 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light) 6,561 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (4 Lights) 4,479 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 3,536 KTriangles/s
8MB Texture Rendering Speed 340.36 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed 326.29 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed 230.37 FPS
64MB Texture Rendering Speed 117.72 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 3-pass) 200.18 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 2-pass) 277.75 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 1-pass) 515.97 FPS
Bump Mapping (Environment) 160.48 FPS
Published No
32 bit:
CPU AMD Athlon 1064MHz
3D Accelerator RADEON DDR
Chipset ATI RADEON DDR
Resolution 1024x768 32 bit
Z-Buffer Depth 32-bit
Frame Buffer Triple
Refresh Rate V Sync.Off
CPU Optimization D3D Hardware T&L
3DMark Result 5188 3D marks
CPU Speed N/A
Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail 108.05 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail 76.04 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail 34.60 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail 97.02 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail 71.16 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail 45.42 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 304.28 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 627.81 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light) 6,299 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (4 Lights) 4,417 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 3,502 KTriangles/s
8MB Texture Rendering Speed 273.59 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed 272.45 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed 243.15 FPS
64MB Texture Rendering Speed 207.26 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 3-pass) 151.60 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 2-pass) 173.89 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 1-pass) 319.37 FPS
Bump Mapping (Environment) 110.33 FPS
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Bilux #553 JA MEG AZT NEMÉRTEM HOGY A RADEON DDR IS EKKORA FILLRATÉT NYOM MINT AZ ENYÉM... -
Bilux #552 MEGY 205-ÖN IS SŐT 210-EN IS CSAK AKKOR MÁR ELÉGGÉ SZEMETEL..:( -
Bilux #551 © Phyre!!??
202mHZ-HEZ ELÉG SZERINTED HA FELJEBB HÚZOM MAJD...? -
Bilux #550 bááázz már akkor jöjjön... ne csak írja.. -
Bilux #549 New DX8 drivers coming soon. For both.
Ajith
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Bilux #548 Már csak a driver dönti el hogy fogom e buherni a kártyát vagy nem... -
Bilux #547 Phyre én mindennap nézem és ha van nézni akkor olvasok is..:)
Teszteid a legjobbak!!!
Más:nekem 314/634 fill szokott lenni
eclk161/mclk202 Mhz.. -
Phyre #546 Ha valaki nem olvasná az oldalamat (elképzelhetetlenül galád dolog :)), ide is leírom. Az egész feszállítgatáshoz annyit, hogy a kártya 32 biten (és miért ne ott használnánk?) erőteljesen memória sávszélesség limitált. 150/190 core/mem-en 211/591,1 fill rate (3dmark2k), míg 125/190-en 203/494 a fill rate. Látható, hogy nagy különbség csak a multitextúrázásnál van, de ezt játékban soha nem lehet tapasztalni, mert jelenleg nincs olyan játék, ami négy textúrát használna, 2 textúrával meg a kártya nem sokkal kevésbé memória limitált mint single texturing-nál. Úgyanilyen memória órajelet tartva elég kétséges, hogy a core további emelése a 3dmark2k multitexturing tesztjén kívűl bármit is érdemben befolyásolna. Persze ez nem csökkenti a buherálás élvezetét. -
Bilux #545 AHA OK... -
Bilux #543 Írd már le!!! -
Bilux #542 és mennyiért? -
Bilux #541 JA MEG
savagegamers.demostudio.hu
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Bilux #540 http://babel.altavista.com/translate.dyn?lp=es_en&doit=done&url=http://server2046.virtualave.net/malloces/inicio.htm