Might & Magic: Heroes VI
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az iromany innen valo:
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=37279&pagenumber=8
Tobbet en sem tudok. Udv
Azt lehet tudni h ez kinek az írománya??
Az UBI meg 1 suttyó banda. Bárcsak ne lenne benne a kezük az AC szériában...
Nemtom mi a f*sz lehetett a bajuk velük de most aztán biztos minden olyan qrva jóó lesz h 1 másik brigádnak adják a stafétát.
Pusztuljanak bele.
De ha már nem BH akk miért nem lehetett legalább a Nival-t megbízni??! -.-
Õk csinálták az elõzõ részt, ami sztem veri a H3-at is (bocs többség).
Csak elb*ssza az UBI az egész Heroes sorozatot.
Ha meg a kevés eladás miatt vették el tõlük akk azt totál nem értem mert a reklám, marketing nem a BH dolga, nekik kellett volna 1 f*sza reklámot csinálniuk, meg ha jól tudom õk pofázzák el h mit és hogyan kell a fejlesztõknek leprogramozniuk, õk pedig kénytelenek azt csinálni hiába nem tetszik nekik.
Kib*szott UBI!
A f*szba bele!
Peace. Udv Mindenkinek
azt hiszem ez eleg sokat elarul. Ha valakinek van kedve forditsa le. Azt hiszem tobbet en nem veszk Ubis jatekot...
Hi Guys. Several months have passed since the release of Heroes 6, and because there are so many questions from you regarding BH which UBI seemingly ignores, I feel it's time that I give you some information.
I worked for Black Hole during the whole H6 development. For us, it was a dream project as we were real fans of the Heroes series, having played it since the original King's Bounty on Commodore 64. And I can tell you it was the UBI producers who didn't keep their deadlines, and that was what led to a total failure of the whole development. Back in 2008, during the contract negotiation process, UBI business decision makers didn't want to hear about making it into the contract that in case of any UBI delays there would be any penalty for UBI. This was a stupid decision of a business development boss (she said "UBI would never be late with any deliverables".... HAHAHA). And that led to an awkward situation where the whole development got snowed up... but the UBI producers kept telling Black Hole that "no worries, guys, there would be more time and budget, just do what we say". It was then that one faction, Academy had been removed from the content list, as well as many other things. And then, at half of the development, Romain suddenly quit, Erwan was removed from the project - he was "elevated" to the position of Might and Magic Brand Director, which meant his direct involvement in the development was over -, and BH was left there with the blame. Just an example, the final story script - which was UBI responsibility - was delivered to BH after 27 months... while originally there was 24 months for the whole development. No comment.
As for BH commitment, BH used up all its 6 months reserves just to be able to finish the project... this was more than 1 million Euros!!! And they (we) did this knowing it would never be payed back, as royalty would only be paid after 2M Heroes sold at full price. We all knew 2M copies would never be sold (neither at full price nor at reduced price), still we wanted to finish the project. During the last 10 months, our full team worked 24/7, without any chance for compensation... and because of this, we didn't have any resources to find other projects and make sure BH would survive after the release of Heroes 6. In the meantime, our new UBI producers kept telling that "the BH team is not working during the nights and weekends, and is not committed to the project at all...". I can only say, just ask any of the BH team members of their commitment...
As for the many bugs: Heroes 6 is a gigantic project, with 1.5-2 million lines in the source code. This is bigger than most RPGs. Such a project can only be finished with good quality if there are several years and a huge budget (i.e. Blizzard games), or if there is a strict design lock date after 7-9 months of the start of development... in case of Heroes, the UBI guys were adding new ideas and were changing existing features during the whole development, even at the last months, so it was simply impossible to make a stable game for release. Just see what they are now doing with patch 1.3 (BH is not involved in that at all btw.). They cannot release a simple patch with a few smaller fixes in time, they are already in a 2-3 weeks delay. This is because the code is extremely complex, and UBI does not have the team to overview it and make it work in time, even if the Limbic guys are really great (and no, they are not involved in the Heroes development from the project start, they joined like 20 months later).
Some examples of what BH added to the game at their own cost, just to make the game better:
- Town screen (we hate the current version, but it is still better then the "let's make a screen shot from the adventure map 3D town and use it as a town screen" that UBI wanted - we could have made a much better one, but didn't have money and time).
- Additional ingame cutscenes (I know cutscenes are not great, but again, we received the story after 27 months... we only had a couple months to make the cutscenes from scratch, and a very limited budget - and I think that the overall visual quality of the game proves to anyone that we could have made really great cutscenes if we had had the time and budget).
- 300 unique Combat Maps (there were 20 in the contract)
- 3D animated Main Menu (UBI wanted a simple still image)
- Additional NPCs
- Campaign Overview Map (Campaign Window)
- and many more........
And what were the UBI decisions:
- Less resources
- No fullscreen town screens
- Only five factions (as a consequence of the continuous delays of UBI deliverables)
- Creature pool
- and many more such "great" changes.........
This project cost Black Hole its existence... while UBI is making profit on Heroes 6.
And just some more thoughts: UBI EMEA were working with four 3rd party developers during the Heroes development:
- Capibara - They made the really good (and financially successful) Clash of Heroes. The are not working with UBI anymore.
- Eugene Systems - They made R.U.S.E. They are not working with UBI anymore.
- Black Hole - They made Heroes 6. They are not working with UBI anymore.
- Techland - They made a 47% game for UBI (Call of Juarez: The Cartel - http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/call-of-juarez-the-cartel) - They are still working with UBI EMEA on a big project.
We heard the UBI guys blame those developers (and Nival) many times... I guess BH was blamed the same way to those developers.
It is always the developer who is responsible...
Just some food for thought.... Thanks guys for reading.
http://www.limbic.com/
Itt C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s kotyogja el:
"And now that BH is out of the picture, it's about to happen again."
A heroescommunityn egy másik VIP Cepheus pedig erre azt mondja, hogy hopp ezt még nem kellett volna kiszivárogtatni, ezzel mintegy megerõsítve.
Nekem elég egyértelmûnek tûnik sajnos 😞
És ez megmagyarázná a késéseket, és a "problémákat" amire a UBI hivatkozik.
I don't have a World of Warcraft account, do you? No, I have a life.
A patch sajnos a jövõ hétre csúszik. Infó és okok itt:
Patch hírek
Kellemes Húsvéti Ünnepeket Kívánok minden Sg.hu Heroes fórumozónak! Baráti üdv!
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De a remake jöhet 😊
A heavy cost. I pay it gladly.
Némi info azoknak, akik nem tudják, hogy mirõl van szó.
A heavy cost. I pay it gladly.
Egy április 1-es tréfán azért jót mosolyogtam az idén is, EZEN.
Ha erre van kapacitás, akkor a "rendes" fejlesztés miért késlekedik?
Ha ilyen marhaságokra van kapacitásuk, nem értem mi olyan fene bonyolult öt városkép összetákolásában, hogy már több mint fél éve nem tudják elkészíteni?
Egyébként az a minotaurusz-szerû jetpack soldier nekem gyanús! 😄 Vagy csak annyira szeretnék minotauruszt látni Heroes 6-ban, hogy beképzelem magamnak?
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amúgy vannak olyan dolgok, amik nem akadályozzák a végigjátszást, de nem lenne rossz, ha javítva lennének
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Hello Heroes,
Patch 1.3 is on its way, but unfortunately it’ll arrive a bit later than expected. It will be available next week.
We apologize for this delay, but we are sure this update will be worth the wait.
Best regards,
The M&M team.
közbe látom, Pio már írta, hogy jövõ héten várható..
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Online features:
Auto-matchmaking: let the game find an opponent for you.
Invite Friends: you’ll be able to invite players from your friends list directly in-game.
Official Map Tags: highlight official maps released by Ubisoft and the others in the map selection screen.
Bugs fixed:
Abilities/Gameplay/Campaign:
Sanctuary - The "Challenge" ability has no functionality.
Sanctuary - The "Trail of Clouds" will completely stop the movement of enemy units that attempt to cross its area of effect.
Menu - The tooltips of the Reputation Abilities do not indicate the proper school which they belong to.
Campaign -The primary quest "The Choice” will not complete when the user upgrades his reputation after visiting an Arena.
Campaign - The hero cannot interact with a Dragon Nexus near the town of Nar-Heresh.
Campaign – In multiplayer, the resources spawn outside the island on Tree of Plenty map.
Campaign - The user cannot select any hero for the Epilogue campaign after previously visiting the other campaign tabs.
The Unyelding trait the user receives for finishing the Sanctuary campaign does not work.
The Barbarian Hero trait the user receives for the Wormchopper achievement does not work as stated in the description.
Create Hero panel's class specific ability name is not localized.
Multiplayer:
The player that is attacked during a Multiplayer session by another player can't complete any Combat Achievements during that battle.
During Siege, one of the player remains on the map if the other player exit the session.
If the user is defeated by not completing the condition to re/capture a town or fort in 7 days - he will receive achievements completed by the AI.
There is no confirmation dialog when kicking another player from the lobby.
Some of multiplayer map name is displayed to English.
A previously saved session cannot be finished after being reloaded, if not all the players rejoin the saved game.
The user that does not join a loaded game will still have his assets in the game.
The client remains on infinite loading screen if he joins any Multiplayer server after he lost his internet connection.
Conflux:
The user cannot buy the newly unlocked items from the Altar of Wishes when reaching a new Dynasty rank, until he advances one more Dynasty level.
The information provided when using "Compare" is incomplete.
The Online Profile displayed is the one of the previous selected friend, if changing the tab to Online Profile after choosing Compare achievements option from the Friends list.
The Player statistics transfer from one player to another after using the "Compare" and "Details" .
When selecting the "View online profile" option for a friend from the friends list, the achievements list shown remains the one of the user.
The confirmation message received when trying to remove an active widget is not localized.
The user cannot see the details and compare the achievements with the other in "leaderboards" and "friends".
After losing the connection to Conflux servers on the transition to the Main Menu, a debug text error is displayed and the Main Menu background disappears.
The user is unable to load any save while in game, after reconnecting to the Internet.
Various:
None of the artifacts present in the Artifact Merchant menu has a description.
Köszönöm Mindenkinek a jókívánságokat. 😊 Baráti üdv!
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